A Conversation About Conversations About Race

"People say we have to have a conversation about race - white people don't have the vocabulary to participate in the conversation on any real meaningful level," says Tanner Colby, author of Some of My Best Friends Are Black.  

"It's like feminism - women changed and men are still dealing with women changing, but they're not changing," says WNYC host Brian Lehrer.

Listen to the full conversation with Tanner Colby and Baratunde Thurston, author of How to Be Black, as they talk with Brian Lehrer and callers about the state of integration in the U.S. and the persistent colorline in our social lives: